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Lens Problems

    If you buy from Ebay, or any inexperienced or dishonest seller, it is good practice to check your equipment for problems.   50% of the equipment I buy has some major issue that the seller doesn't recognize or hopes I won't recognize.   If you receive a bad item, don't be shy, get a refund.   

rear view of lens

Inspecting the Lens

     Turn the focus ring and slide or turn the zoom ring.  They should turn smoothly and evenly.  Some lenses use lightweight grease so the ring will turn faster but it should still turn evenly with some resistance.   The rings should not spin freely or catch as you turn them.  Scratching sounds are a good sign that the lens needs a regrease.   

     It's a good idea to clean the front and rear elements before doing a glass inspection.   If the lens has a filter on it, remove it.  If the filter is stuck you will need to be very patient and work to remove it.  Make sure you blow off any debris before you apply a moistened wipe.   If debris is on the glass surface, when you wipe it, you will scratch it. 

     Remember to check the filter thread for dents.

     Hold the lens up to the light and look through it from both ends.   You may see specks of dust and that is normal.   You may be tempted to use a flashlight, but I don't recommend it unless you suspect an issue.   Flashlights make minor imperfections look major.   Remember that you are looking at multiple surfaces of glass in the lens.   Your will need to look closely in order to see everything.   

     You are looking for fungus, mold, haze, separation, pitting, cleaning marks and oil.  All of these issues will affect performance to varying degress depending on the severity of the issue.  Some issues are fixable and some aren't.  If you are not a repairman, and the seller didn't make you aware of problems, you should return the lens to the seller.    Cleaning marks are obviously not cleanable.   If they are deep and plentiful it will affect image quality.  There are several types of fungi that grow in lenses.   If fungus sits on the glass long enough it will scar the glass permanently.   Haze that is caused by condensation may be cleanable, but that is rare and all other types of haze are impossible to clean.    Mold, which is a fungus, will permanently damage a lens.  Separation is rare but can occur in any lens.  It is not fixable and will affect image quality.   Pitting is something we see on glass everyday.  It is usually caused by debris hitting the lens.  Your car's winsheild is probably covered with pitting.  Eventually it will ruin the glass.   Use a quality filter to protect your lens. 

     Turn the aperture ring and check to see if the iris is opening/closing.  Most vintage and some modern lenses have a spring lever that can be moved to operate the aperture.   The iris should quickly open/close when this lever is sprung.   Some lenses have pins.  Modern electronic lenses do not have an aperture lever.   Old, non-auto aperture lenses do not have an aperture lever.  Canon FD lenses must be mounted on a body in order to see the aperture move.  If you have a Canon FD lens and the aperture seems to be stuck at f5.6, don't freak out, this is normal.    If your aperture isn't working it is likely that there is oil on it or its mechanism.    Lenses are greased in order to make the focus ring move smoothly and positively.   Over time the grease can make its way down to the iris assembly.   The only way to fix it is to physically clean it.  If you are not experienced with lens disassembly do not attempt it.   Send the lens back to the seller.

     NOTE: Never spray WD-40 or put oil in a lens.   


fungus example 1


haze example


fungus example 2


pitting example


fungus example 3


separation example


mold example


oily-iris example

Oily Iris

cleaning-marks example

Cleaning Marks

dented filter ring

Damaged Threads

Stuck Filter

Stuck Filter

    If a filter is stuck on the lens you must fight the urge to forcefully remove it.    It is far better to spend a day safely removing the filter than to risk scratching your lens.   When you forcefully remove a filter there is a strong chance the lens will be scratched.  

  • Use a filter wrench.   Most stuck filters will come off with the aid of a filter wrench.    Make sure you buy the right size and always turn counter clockwise to loosen.  

filter wrench
  • You may have success with a jar gripper.

  • If the wrench or gripper doesn't work the filter is probably seized.    You can try heating the filter with a hairdryer and making another attempt with the wrench.   You can also try icing the filter with an ice pack.   

  • If heat and cold don't work you may be tempted to use WD40 but don't do it.   It will not penetrate the threads and any excess fluid will make gripping the filter much more difficult and it may run down into the lens barrel.

  • At this point you will need to use a larger wrench.   If the filter is tall you may have enough surface to use a strap wrench.  Remember that these wrenches will apply enough force to break your lens mechanisms.  

dremmel tool
  • If the strap wrench doesn't work then you are faced with a tough decision.   The only way to remove that filter is to physically cut through the filter rim.  A Dremel with a cutting disc is a good choice.    If you have a good mini hacksaw you can use it to cut the filter rim down to the glass.   This will likely break the seal and allow the filter to turn.  You may choose to break the filter glass while holding the lens upside down.  Then you can cut the filter with a saw or a pliers. 


Sigma Lens Errors

     Back in the 90's, Sigma reverse engineered the technology to produce Canon AF lens mounts.    Sigma lenses from that era do not communicate properly with Eos D-Slr bodies.  This problem also affected many Quantaray lenses and the occasional obscure brand. 
     When one of these lenses is mounted to a 90's film slr like the Eos Elan, it will work fine.   However, when it is mounted to a D-slr it will only shoot at largest aperture.   If you stop down the aperture the lens will create an error code and the camera will not work.   In some cases autofocus won't work at all.   
     Sigma does not offer a service to update these old lenses.    There are kits available to 'hack' the contacts and make the lens usable but you need repair experience to do this modification.   I don't recommend it.
      If you have a Sigma AF lens with a Canon mount, which was made prior to 2003, you should assume it will not work with any Eos D-slr from the 10D forward.   

M42 Lens Mount Variations

     Praktica produced the first m42 mount lens.   Over time it became quite popular as more companies adopted it.   It became so popular that it was called the universal mount.  The nickname implies that all m42 lenses would fit all m42 camera bodies.  Unfortunately, this is not correct.  There were variations introduced by manufacturer's thru the years.  These variations affect the usability of certain m42 lenses on certain m42 camera bodies.  

  • Edixa m42 cameras have a m42 thread but the start point is offset.  When using another mfg's m42 lens on an Edixa the aperture arm will not line up and the push plate will not activate the automatic aperture pin of the lens.   Manual aperture m42 lenses will work though.   Edixa lenses do not mount properly on m42 bodies from other mfg's.

  • Certain Mamiya lenses will not thread properly on Pentax Spotmatic bodies.

  • Helios m42 bodies may have an altered start point so some m42 lenses will not thread onto them or line up properly.

  • Helios 44-2 and 44-3 Biotar copies may have a lip that prevents proper seating of the lens on adapters.

  • Some versions of the Zeiss Jena Biotar 58mm f2 have an enlarged rear element guide that will interfere with mirrors on some m42 bodies including Spotmatics.

  • Fujinon's line of EBC m42 lenses have an aperture indexing bump that interferes with mounting on adapters and certain bodies.  Some Mamiya Sekor's use a similar system and will not seat properly in m42 adapters.  

  • Some Yashinon DX lenses have an extended lens barrel which will hit the mirror on Pentax Spotamtic bodies.  The Yashinon DX 50mm f1.7 & Yashinon DX 50mm f1.4 are known to do this.   Because the design of the these lenses, caurion should be used when mounting them to a D-slr.

  • The Yashica Electro AX does not accept the Yashinon-DX 21mm f/3.3, Auto Yashinon-DX 28mm f/2.8 or Auto Yashinon-DX 50mm f/2, f/1.7, or f/1.4  as they will hit the mirror.

  • The Mir 37Ib 37mm f2.8 will hit the mirror on full frame Eos cameras because the rear element extends too far when the lens focuses beyond 10 feet.  Using Live View bypasses this issue but don't turn it on or off while the lens is mounted.

  • The A/M switch on m42 lenses can not be used on Spotmatic's ES, ESII and F.  Never try to force the switch.  The camera body is desgined to always activate Auto mode.

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